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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Feb 2, 2011 10:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

Agree - it just wasn't cool or even allowed to have kids there, esp. in ballrooms/clubs where the smoke was dense. Then again - at Nassau Colieum in '79 - I took a joint from the person next to me - stunned to discover it was a 10-11 yr. old, he was definitely stoned, and no parents in sight.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 2, 2011 11:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

While I agree it wasn't really "done" then to take children to rock concerts, I'd have to disagree that it had to do with the smoking. (Smoking of whatever.) There was no concern to shield children from cigarette smoke then. It's one of the things that has changed dramatically since that forgotten world. Remember when adults blew smoke rings to entertain children? Many of my childhood memories (regarding adults) involve smoky rooms, and filthy ashtrays.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 2, 2011 11:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

Yeah, I doubt that it was as motivated by health concerns (yes, I recall parents smoking and drinking, and taking drugs--valium was EVERYWHERE!--with kids all around to a FAR greater degree than most would admit, or condone today, that's for sure) as by the whole "counter culture biz".

IE, sure, they said "it's LOUD, and DRUGS are there, and FREE SEX is the message" but it wasn't due to damage to the ears, or someone OD'ing, or getting a STD as much as it was resistance to whole "WTF are these kids up to anyway?" and "it's just not 'right' for you to be exposed to this at 14!" rather than the kinds of concerns we appreciate today (re: health related).

Not trying to say our parent's generation were uncaring/ignorant sorts, but I do think their fears were motivated primarily along the cultural/political/social axes rather than health per se.

I would also qualify the "kids weren't there" with respect to siblings...ie, the only kids I met there, and by kids I mean ~ 15 and younger, were little brothers and sisters...those sorts of kids were sometimes present, esp by late 70s. But, I don't think I started seeing parents with their kids, like me, til the early 90s, and it's become increasingly common since, as S&R noted above.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 2, 2011 12:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

My first rock concert was Eric Clapton, in 1974. I was one of those younger siblings or actually younger cousin - I was allowed to go because I was "in the care of" my older cousins (and their druggie friends). hahahahahahahahaha - if my mother had known the half of it ... she had No. Clue. what would be going on.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 2, 2011 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

But they were right it was loud. Concerts aren't nearly so loud now. I went to a number of concerts in my 20's where I couldn't hear at all the next day. We thought it was normal to slowly get your hearing back over the course of about 48 hours! I do regret that now, it seems idiotic.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 2, 2011 12:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

Of course! Worst, by far, for me was Jefferson Starship...it hurt for ~ 48 hrs. That is DEFN a bad sign. Always had significant "ringing" (no pun intended) for that night/next morning.

Ironically, my work as a biologist exposed me to something as bad: a "chorus" of Great Plains Toads, the loudest (most intense) species in NAmerica, in which I was among a group of ~ 275 calling males, and my ears hurt for ~ 72 hrs...the ringing it left me with was unreal.

I for one am glad the concerts are quieter now.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Feb 3, 2011 1:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

" Of course! Worst, by far, for me was Jefferson Starship...it hurt for ~ 48 hrs. "

ME TOO! Not the 70's version but with Casady and Papa John at least. But yeah loud and shitty sound and ear damage

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Feb 2, 2011 1:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

Really, wow!

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Poster: 219mid Date: Feb 3, 2011 8:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Bill Walton T-Shirt for the Rex Foundation

The schedule at the original Fillmore was Friday and Saturday nights and Sunday afternoon, whihch would make it easy for kids to attend.